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0D54z00009TAe55CADOkta Classic EngineAuthenticationAnswered2024-02-26T21:00:07.000Z2023-07-13T19:08:09.000Z2023-07-17T17:01:19.000Z

LinetteC.79871 (Customer) asked a question.

With Azure AD as IdP for Okta, pw is required to reveal

Hello,

Azure AD as IdP for Okta works very well, but the Okta password is required to Reveal existing credentials.

How can the Azure AD authentication be extended to the Reveal pw requirement?

Thanks

 


  • Hello @LinetteC.79871 (Customer)​ Thank you for reacting out to our Community!

     

    At this time this is not possible, because using an IDP for authentication the Okta user does not have a password as authentication happens at Azure level and not Okta, thus user does not need a password for Okta.

    Hope this answers your question.

     

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  • LinetteC.79871 (Customer)

    Thanks for responding, but I don't understand. If, as you say, the user doesn't have an Okta password, then existing credentials for any application cannot be revealed or edited by the user.

  • LinetteC.79871 (Customer)

    I know that.

    Please try to understand my question: How do our users reveal credentials for hundreds of SWA applications when needed if they do not have an Okta password?

    • The Okta password and application password are not the same. For SWA applications you have individual password.

      But if you use Azure IDP to authenticate into Okta, technically speaking your account does not have a password in Okta because you authenticate with the credentials from Azure, and the authentication is done based on SAML assertion.

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  • LinetteC.79871 (Customer)

    I'm aware that SAML and SWA password are not the same. I am not clueless as the lead administered Okta for many years.

    You still do not understand my question. I assumed way too much when I phrased my question.

    I will try again to make it clear.

    Step 1. User authenticates in Okta with Azure AD. No Okta password for the user is involved.

    Step 2. User is forced by an SWA application, call it App1, to change their App1 password.

    Step 3. Because the password for App1 was changed in Step 2, the user needs to update the password on their Okta SWA App1 chiclet so it will continue to work. On their Okta dashboard, user clicks 3 dots on the App1 chiclet.

    Step 4. Sidebar opens with the credentials for App1. The password for App1 is hidden. User clicks Reveal so they can change the password.

    Step 5. Okta requests user's Okta password. This is the problem. The user does not have an Okta password.

    Here are two screenshots.

    The first screenshot shows the Reveal button associated with credentials on the Okta SWA App1 chiclet that the user sees and must click to change the password for App1.

    imageThe second screenshot shows the request for Okta password that is displayed before the password for App1 will be revealed.

    imageThis is the problem - the user has no Okta password.

     

    My question was, can Azure AD as the IdP for Okta be extended to replace this request for the user's Okta password?

    If that is not possible, is there a configuration change that I need to consider? If not, how is Azure AD as an Okta IdP useful given this problem?

     

     

     

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    • Yes the additional information does make more sense now. I would assume that you have already tried with the Azure password and that does not work.

      In this case I would recommend triggering a mass password reset, this way it will force all your users to setup an Okta password. I know this is not the solution desired, but in your case this is the only one as the IDP setup does not have a way to import the password from Azure AD.

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With Azure AD as IdP for Okta, pw is required to reveal